My Thoughts and Comments on the Catholic Church's Vatican Meeting 2014 on Inclusion of Homosexuals in the Church and also the Divorced and Communion

My Thoughts and Comments on the Catholic Church's Vatican Meeting 2014 on Inclusion of Homosexuals in the Church and also the Divorced and Communion

Some are glad about the outcome of no real outcome or reform in the Catholic Church. But see clearly what happened and why it was not a good thing.

1) The Catholic Archbishops chose beliefs and traditions of a denomination over what the Bible actually says.

A) There is no scripture that says we are to exclude ANYONE from taking communion. The Bible only warns individuals to take it seriously and warns those that know of a reason why they personally should not receive communion, of taking it.

1 Corinthians 11:27
Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.
28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.
29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord’s body. 30 For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.
31 For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged.

B) We as the Church and Body of Christ, are supposed to receive ALL people.

Isaiah 56:7
Even them will I bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer: their burnt offerings and their sacrifices shall be accepted upon mine altar; for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people.

Mark 11:17
And he taught, saying unto them, Is it not written, My house shall be called of all nations the house of prayer? but ye have made it a den of thieves.

The only thing the Bible speaks on above total inclusion, is that it sets and outlines the standard is who qualifies for Leadership, among ALL those people that willingly come, and must be accepted.

1 Timothy 3:1
This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work.
2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;
3 Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;
4 One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity;
5 (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)
6 Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the
condemnation of the devil.
7 Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.
8 Likewise must the deacons be grave, not doubletongued, not given to much wine, not greedy of filthy lucre;
9 Holding the mystery of the faith in a pure conscience. 10 And let these also first be proved; then let them use the office of a deacon, being found blameless.
11 Even so must their wives be grave, not slanderers, sober, faithful in all things.
12 Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well.
13 For they that have used the office of a deacon well purchase to themselves a good degree, and great boldness in the faith which is in Christ Jesus.

Titus 1:6
If any be blameless, the husband of one wife, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly.
7 For a bishop must be blameless, as the steward of God; not selfwilled, not soon angry, not given to wine, no striker, not given to filthy lucre;
8 But a lover of hospitality, a lover of good men, sober, just, holy, temperate;
9 Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers.

2) What happened in the outcome resulting in no outcome at all, was that Democracy entered, was placed above, and was allowed to override the Theocracy that is the Church. This could have dangerous consequences in the future. The only time Church Leadership should be over ruled is when the hierarchy themselves are out of line and try to go against scripture. There is a time when Leadership can put things to a vote. But that is up to Leadership, and still there can be no decisions or choices that go against the Word of God allowed. The Word is a weapon of peace and influence and a game changer. It must not be diluted.

See clearly. See down the road. I am not sure this was not contrived. You have to ask yourself, why were the two major issues, yet very and so different; Divorce and Homosexuality, linked in the first place? They are not at all the same or treated the same in God's Word. One is frowned upon, but allowable by God, and the other is not allowed at all.

The Bible on Divorce:

Matthew 19:7
They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away?
Matthew 19:8
He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.

Malachi 2:14
Yet ye say, Wherefore? Because the Lord hath been witness between thee and the wife of thy youth, against whom thou hast dealt treacherously: yet is she thy companion, and the wife of thy covenant.
Malachi 2:15
And did not he make one? Yet had he the residue of the spirit. And wherefore one? That he might seek a godly seed. Therefore take heed to your spirit, and let none deal treacherously against the wife of his youth.
Malachi 2:16
For the Lord, the God of Israel, saith that he hateth putting away: for one covereth violence with his garment, saith the Lord of hosts: therefore take heed to your spirit, that ye deal not treacherously.

The Bible on Homosexuality:

Leviticus 18:22
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

Leviticus 20:13
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Romans 1:24
Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
Romans 1:26
For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
Romans 1:27
And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
Romans 1:29
Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
Romans 1:32
Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them. 

1 Corinthians 6:9
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
1 Corinthians 6:10
Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

Yes. I know it is harsh. But notice, the Bible does not set homosexuality in a class by itself, when considering sin. Many Gays and gay supporters don't like homosexuality linked with other of these sins and other universally accepted immoralities. But it is the Bible and the Word, and not any individual, that places homosexuality in the same group and sees it the same as lying, envying, even murder, too, among other sins. And let us see the other side, as well. For many on the "Moral" Right, and other Christians, that seek and/or think to exclude all Gays and others of the LBGT community from the Church and others sects of life and the community at large, this truth and these scripture verses works and testifies against you, too. Often, these so easily will accept those that have committed nearly ALL of these other sins, and those that are presently committing, but yet then there has to be a special session in the Vatican to accept gays? That is NOT religion. That is hypocrisy (another sin). That is called bias and bigotry and hate. That thinking is NOT Jesus and NOT Christian at all. And it is NOT love at all.

Now, though as written above, God is not at all for divorce, we also see that divorce is NOT included in any of these verses above, and not grouped in with other sins. So why again is the Catholic Church treating Divorce and Homosexuality as if they are the same? Could it be that there is a hope that someday those that are divorced and others that feel the Catholic Church is wrong about it (and they are), will get the changes they want, and then others will think that then the door is wide open, and that there must be changes for other things, including the Church's position on homosexuality?  As said, all still must be according to the Bible and Word of God.  We are not to add to it, nor subtract from it. Yet, without doubt, we are to love all. You actually cannot do that without judgment. That is where so many go wrong. You just have to judge right.

Luke 12:57
Yea, and why even of yourselves judge ye not what is right?

John 7:24
Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

In all, God is God, and is right. To every Pastor, Preacher, Evangelist, Archbishop, Cardinal, Priest, Nun, and to all other Church leaders; including laymen leadership, and even the Pope himself, and even me myself: These things below are forever is true:

Psalms 119:89
LAMED.For ever, O Lord, thy word is settled in heaven.

Psalms 119:90
Thy faithfulness is unto all generations: thou hast established the earth, and it abideth.

Psalms 138:2
I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name.

Malachi 3:6
For I am the Lord, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

Romans 3:4
God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar;
as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.
Hebrews 13:8
Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

2 Timothy 2:19
Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.

John 8:32
And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

John 17:17
Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.

2 Corinthians 13:8
For we can do nothing against the truth, but for the truth.

Consider all I say. I so love you all.

Yulanda K. Graced and Sent Pastor and Teacher

Muslim World: Islam, the War On Terror, the Middle East Verses the West, and What Are Liberals To Do and Think of It All.

Muslim World: Islam, the War On Terror, the Middle East Verses the West, and What Are Liberals To Do and Think of It All.

The Heart of the Problem

There are a few changes from my original response to a Twitter post and video clip, but the meat of it is retained in this composition. I can't wait to get back to seeing Real Time with Bill Maher.

Below is the clip to which I am responding  and referencing.

http://www.whosay.com/status/BillMaher/1000837?wsref=tw&code=Hue9mhq

My response:

My God. My God.

First, I would KILL to be apart of this conversation.

Second, in the specific things mentioned in the clip, I am 108.36% in agreement with Bill Maher. I don't know what the heck a Liberal is anymore. Many traded principles for politics, and think they can carry the same label. Nope. For one example, a real Liberal would have, in the interest, and per the System of Justice, though not personally, defended Donald Sterling.

Third, stand down Ben Affleck. Most of what the gentleman said about Muslims was right, and again, Bill Maher's take on the inconsistency of Liberals at certain times, is right on target.

I say most of what the Gentleman said, because there are two or three things that every one keeps confusing. We have the actions of some verses the actual religion itself. And then, there's government, which uses the religion. Three separate issues, albeit well woven.

I know for fact that true Islam does not support or direct any to kill, including self, as in suicide bombings, and including killing those that are not of the religion, or leave the religion. Those that do these things, though they say they are Muslim, are not acting in the name or cause of their god or religion. It is right for Liberals, and even all, to defend Islam from this particular violent, and inaccurate depiction, no matter what percentage those that do violence cover.

However, though the religion is not violent, and therefore does not support violence towards women, what is ABSOLUTELY TRUE, is that the religion does NOT put women on par with men as in make them TOTAL EQUALS. That is true about Islam. Islam teaches men to love and care and provide for women, but not at all as equals. It is the same with homosexuals, and other groups, as Maher pointed out. They are not unequal, but excluded. It is what it is.

Liberals, and all, should defend the right for men and women to freely practice that faith. But that would include, no homosexuality, and also for women to take a secondary role. No one has a right to change a religion, and it is anyone's right to follow, whether we think the religion is right or fair or not. It's a tough pill to swallow. But Liberty and Choice, is just that. Liberals can't have it both ways.

Now we get to Government Rule and Authority, which is the central heart of the real issues, and what sets apart the West from these nations. It is also where Liberals get confused. In these Islamic nations, in many ways if not all, Government is synonymous with Religion, unlike here in America. Though we have some laws based on religion, they are not the religion itself. But in many of the " Islamic nations that we speak of, because of the overwhelming connection between Government and Religion, even when using true Islam, because of the Religion, there is a system of laws where Choice and Liberty and Equality and Fairness, is taken from all women, for one, and from those that are Gay, Trans-gender, and any one and any group that the religion says is wrong, sinful, or should not be equal. This is true even for those that Choose NOT to follow Islam, too, creating a system of Government where essentially the choice to follow Islam itself is taken.

It is then, per the Government Sphere, that every Liberal and all should stand against the religion being so connected and involved with National Rule and Power, even as I do in America, against Christians that want to use faith to justify bias in public, and call it the First Amendment. That's wrong. In these Islamic Countries, it is not a matter of separation of Mosque and State. As said, that phrase even in America and the West is often misunderstood and not accurately applied, causing bias against some religions. But in these nations, the civil rights and human justice fight, and solutions lie in a separation of Public and Private, or in Personal lifestyles per any freely chosen individual belief, that has nothing to do or harms others, even if publicly displayed, versus Dictated lifestyles to all without choice. There are some things that effect lifestyles and cultural that should be Dictated. To be a real society, there has to be some commonality.

As World Citizens, we have the right and should fight to change every governing rule that doesn't lead to Liberty and Justice for all, in all the World. Liberals use to take the lead on that. Of course, there is one more caveat that complicates the whole situation and can bruise any true Liberal's ideology.

All these Islamic nations of which we speak, are indeed Sovereign, and have the right to mix in religion or make Islam synonymous with all Government and Culture. For this, it is fact that the Obama administration has been right all along, and I dare say me, too, in how we approach the War on Terror and change and peace in the Middle East, among themselves, and in the World.

We can inspire and preach to influence change. We must. But not much will be accomplished on any front; civil or in terrorism from the region, beyond Containment, until the People of these Lands themselves rise up physically, spiritually, mentally and ideologically, unless we become what Liberals, and all Americans, hate and speak against; Tyranny, Dictatorship, and Imperialism. Though, with consent, even today, Imperialism is not always a bad option, and should be on the table.

The debate has been whether or not our troops should fight and/or remain in some of these Sovereign Nations, with or without permission. But what if The People there actually gave over all rule and authority to the US of A, until they are able to take over for themselves. This way, we would be more than mere body guards, and have a bona fide self interest. It would be no different than defending Rhode Island.

They could be governed no differently than any other of our US territories in where the citizens would still have their own representation, but the overall structure would come from America.

Just a thought. No one get too upset. Peace.

There is greatness in the Middle East.

God Bless America. God Bless this World.

Yulanda K. - Born Again Christian that ADORES irreligious Atheist, but adorable, Bill Maher.  World Citizen.