Tuesday, September 11, 2012

If Government is "In God We Trust", then Religion Should Be "In Government We Trust"

If government has to be "In God We Trust", then the Church and other religions in certain things and in certain ways have to agree to be "In Government We Trust", under God. The Church especially, but also other religions can't teach and talk so much smack about structure, order, and authority, but continue to tell government authority that they are going to do whatever they want. There has to be some kind of cooperation, yet without compromising the integrty of faith (for faith compromised is no faith at all). But, neither should any just government be forced to compromise the integrity of its laws and responsibility towards all of society. There should not be for any person, group or sphere, neither complete dependence or complete independence, but inter-dependence, cooperation, and partnership. There should be submission to each other. The two most important spheres in America and the world, are the religious and government spheres. The direction, choices and paths they choose right now will determine and set the course for all other areas of life. Also integral, is the degree of cooperation they maintain with one another. They must co-exist and cooperate while each also keeps, and helps the other keep, the integrity of their rules and foundation. For example. The government must fight for the Christian to openly say Jesus is Lord and practice life according to the bible, without the entire entity or any individual feeling threatened or excluded from excelling in any area of life. And the Church, though they believe Jesus is the only way, the truth, and the life, and the only way to Heaven and everlasting life, must allow the government to fight for the Muslim to say Allah is God and be free to be anything they aspire to be, the Jewish person to say they are the people of God and still await the true Messiah and still have every door opened, and though it is not a religion, for the LBGT community to openly be who they are without persecution or no chance of advancement anywhere in life and most certainly not suffer any loss of inalienable and/or human rights. Of course you can apply the principle to all beliefs. The religious sphere would also include the atheist or non-religious, for there still is a needed personal consistency or conviction that must be protected. We are all in this together. If there was total partnership between the public sector, for-profit private sector, and the non-profit private arena especially the religious, we would all be singing, "Ain't No Stopping Us Now. Were On The Move!" (Everyone knows by now I have to get a song in somehow :) This (not the song reference thing, but the other stuff) is exactly what the founders of our great country were thinking when preparing us for greatness, when they started the constitution with that so simple, but so powerful phrase "We The People", instead of opening with "Each Of Us". "We the People of the United States, in Order to form a MORE PERFECT UNION , establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the COMMON DEFENSE, promote the GENERAL WELFARE (I won't say anything ultra Conservatives, if you won't.), and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America." Does not this one opening paragraph of America's Constitution sum it all up? (This is my first time actually reading it in years, too. It just goes to show, you either are this or you are not. Convergence is influence.) Let me point out that I put in caps; MORE PERFECT UNION, COMMON DEFENSE, and GENERAL WELFARE, but in the original text Blessings of Liberty is actually capitalized. So again we see an emphasis on liberty and the empowerment thereof, was thoroughly held by our founders. We also can not escape our founders value of freedom and justice for all religions and thoughts, yet while desiring complete agreement among all is evidenced by the very first amendment to the Bill of Rights. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." If you look at the first aspects of the amendment we clearly see the framers were not against the establishment of any religion, but against having a respect for any particular establishment of religion. (Church. It sounds like "no respect of persons" to me.) And for those of you who think then that they wanted separation of Church and State, be mindful that they included within the very same amendment also language to prevent the non-abridging of freedom of speech, instead of making that idea a seperate amendment to itself. Most separate the notion of freedom of religion and freedom of speech, but the first amendment flows from being free to establish religion, to not stopping the exercise of that religion, to not preventing that religion from freely speaking, to not preventing that religion from publishing the beliefs of said religion, to freedom to assemble and gather under that religion, and finally freedom as a religion to petition the government for grievances. I'm in no way saying freedom of speech, the press, peacable assembly, nor redressing the government is just for established religion, but reading comprehension 101 clearly shows a pattern of thought. But as said, the first amendment neither expresses love for or prejudice against any particular religion or philosophy, in stating clearly there is to be no respect of any one religion. Rather than "separate but equal" as pertaining to Church and State, it is "inclusion and equality" America was built upon. All have opportunity to voice their opinions and beliefs; petition and express grievances, with and within government. This is the foundation for my calling for cooperation between religion and government. Both have on occassion tried to bully or have its way with the other. It is historical fact that most, if not all of the founders and framers of America and the laws that govern us, were Christian. And yet, given the opportunity to frame us with language that reads only Christian speech is free speech, or only the Christian way of life will enjoy American freedom, they did not submit to those thoughts in writing. These were not ignorant men, nor shy, nor fearful. But they saw the value of true freedom, the drawing power of liberty, and knew that even towards Christ, it must be by choice. I personally know that where there is power there is liberty, and where there is liberty there is power. Some, I believe with a good heart, but sincerely wrong, try to eliminate religion believing it has stopped harmony and built walls between people. Some have tried to make one new religion. Some, seemingly dutiful to their faith, have tried to over ride all contrary thought. But the true proof of love, respect, honor, and tolerance is when there are differences, and liberty for us all to openly express those differences and who each of us really are, while still coming together, and staying together to fight for justice for all humanity and protection of all of creation together. Do this while keeping personal integrity to ones own God or faith, or non-belief in any God, and you prove who you are or if you can't, you prove who you are not. Let us freely cooperate and as one nation under God (Sorry Atheists. That's the one point you lose and have to take one for the team and just suffer through :), INDIVISIBLE, move forward. We as a country need to go back, back to the basics, and be reminded of certains things. We must recapture what was lost, before we can add anew and move forward. But, Yes We Can! And, Yes We Will! Let freedom ring. God Bless America. -Yulanda K. Sent from Catch Notes for Android https://catch.com'>Someone sent you a note: If Government is "In God We Trust", then Religion Should Be "In Government We Trust" If government has to be "In God We Trust", then the Church and other religions in certain things and in certain ways have to agree to be "In Government We Trust", under God. The Church especially, but also other religions can't teach and talk so much smack about structure, order, and authority, but continue to tell government authority that they are going to do whatever they want. There has to be some kind of cooperation, yet without compromising the integrty of faith (for faith compromised is no faith at all). But, neither should any just government be forced to compromise the integrity of its laws and responsibility towards all of society. There should not be for any person, group or sphere, neither complete dependence or complete independence, but inter-dependence, cooperation, and partnership. There should be submission to each other. The two most important spheres in America and the world, are the religious and government spheres. The direction, choices and paths they choose right now will determine and set the course for all other areas of life. Also integral, is the degree of cooperation they maintain with one another. They must co-exist and cooperate while each also keeps, and helps the other keep, the integrity of their rules and foundation. For example. The government must fight for the Christian to openly say Jesus is Lord and practice life according to the bible, without the entire entity or any individual feeling threatened or excluded from excelling in any area of life. And the Church, though they believe Jesus is the only way, the truth, and the life, and the only way to Heaven and everlasting life, must allow the government to fight for the Muslim to say Allah is God and be free to be anything they aspire to be, the Jewish person to say they are the people of God and still await the true Messiah and still have every door opened, and though it is not a religion, for the LBGT community to openly be who they are without persecution or no chance of advancement anywhere in life and most certainly not suffer any loss of inalienable and/or human rights. Of course you can apply the principle to all beliefs. The religious sphere would also include the atheist or non-religious, for there still is a needed personal consistency or conviction that must be protected. We are all in this together. If there was total partnership between the public sector, for-profit private sector, and the non-profit private arena especially the religious, we would all be singing, "Ain't No Stopping Us Now. Were On The Move!" (Everyone knows by now I have to get a song in somehow :) This (not the song reference thing, but the other stuff) is exactly what the founders of our great country were thinking when preparing us for greatness, when they started the constitution with that so simple, but so powerful phrase "We The People", instead of opening with "Each Of Us". "We the People of the United States, in Order to form a MORE PERFECT UNION , establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the COMMON DEFENSE, promote the GENERAL WELFARE (I won't say anything ultra Conservatives, if you won't.), and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America." Does not this one opening paragraph of America's Constitution sum it all up? (This is my first time actually reading it in years, too. It just goes to show, you either are this or you are not. Convergence is influence.) Let me point out that I put in caps; MORE PERFECT UNION, COMMON DEFENSE, and GENERAL WELFARE, but in the original text Blessings of Liberty is actually capitalized. So again we see an emphasis on liberty and the empowerment thereof, was thoroughly held by our founders. We also can not escape our founders value of freedom and justice for all religions and thoughts, yet while desiring complete agreement among all is evidenced by the very first amendment to the Bill of Rights. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." If you look at the first aspects of the amendment we clearly see the framers were not against the establishment of any religion, but against having a respect for any particular establishment of religion. (Church. It sounds like "no respect of persons" to me.) And for those of you who think then that they wanted separation of Church and State, be mindful that they included within the very same amendment also language to prevent the non-abridging of freedom of speech, instead of making that idea a seperate amendment to itself. Most separate the notion of freedom of religion and freedom of speech, but the first amendment flows from being free to establish religion, to not stopping the exercise of that religion, to not preventing that religion from freely speaking, to not preventing that religion from publishing the beliefs of said religion, to freedom to assemble and gather under that religion, and finally freedom as a religion to petition the government for grievances. I'm in no way saying freedom of speech, the press, peacable assembly, nor redressing the government is just for established religion, but reading comprehension 101 clearly shows a pattern of thought. But as said, the first amendment neither expresses love for or prejudice against any particular religion or philosophy, in stating clearly there is to be no respect of any one religion. Rather than "separate but equal" as pertaining to Church and State, it is "inclusion and equality" America was built upon. All have opportunity to voice their opinions and beliefs; petition and express grievances, with and within government. This is the foundation for my calling for cooperation between religion and government. Both have on occassion tried to bully or have its way with the other. It is historical fact that most, if not all of the founders and framers of America and the laws that govern us, were Christian. And yet, given the opportunity to frame us with language that reads only Christian speech is free speech, or only the Christian way of life will enjoy American freedom, they did not submit to those thoughts in writing. These were not ignorant men, nor shy, nor fearful. But they saw the value of true freedom, the drawing power of liberty, and knew that even towards Christ, it must be by choice. I personally know that where there is power there is liberty, and where there is liberty there is power. Some, I believe with a good heart, but sincerely wrong, try to eliminate religion believing it has stopped harmony and built walls between people. Some have tried to make one new religion. Some, seemingly dutiful to their faith, have tried to over ride all contrary thought. But the true proof of love, respect, honor, and tolerance is when there are differences, and liberty for us all to openly express those differences and who each of us really are, while still coming together, and staying together to fight for justice for all humanity and protection of all of creation together. Do this while keeping personal integrity to ones own God or faith, or non-belief in any God, and you prove who you are or if you can't, you prove who you are not. Let us freely cooperate and as one nation under God (Sorry Atheists. That's the one point you lose and have to take one for the team and just suffer through :), INDIVISIBLE, move forward. We as a country need to go back, back to the basics, and be reminded of certains things. We must recapture what was lost, before we can add anew and move forward. But, Yes We Can! And, Yes We Will! Let freedom ring. God Bless America. -Yulanda K.
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